Moment (of a Force) About a Point

There are 3 common methods to compute moments about a point:
- Perpendicular components of a force M = F d <- preferred method for 2D problems!!!!
- Sine of the angle method
- Cross product method (typically reserved for 3D problems) M = r x F
Perpendicular Components of a Force
Requires:
- Decomposing force vector into x and y components
- Determining x and y distances
Since we know that the moment measures how perpendicular the force and distance are, we can create this formula to calculate moments in 2D:
M=±Fxry±Fyrx
When using this method, be careful with which components cause positive vs. negative moments.
Example: Determine the moment about point O


Mo=−(60)(5)−(80)(2)
Mo=−460N.m or Mo=460N.m clockwise
Sine of the Angle Method
I personally find this method to be more difficult, especially when the angle isn't obvious or easy to calculate.
My suggestion? USE THE FIRST METHOD for 2D problems!!!
Requires:
- Magnitude of the force
- Magnitude of the distance
- The angle between the two vectors
We can use another definition of the cross product:
Mo=rFsinθ=F(rsinθ)=Fd
Where the computation is very straight forward if we know the angle of the geometry. This method is rarely used because the angle is usually not provided, but it is good to know because it is the fastest.
Example: Determine the moment about point O


Mo=Fdsinθ=(100N)(5.385m)sin(58.7)
Mo=460N.m
Cross Product Method*
*Again, we normally only use this for 3D problems, but the example below shows that it still works in 2D
Requires:
- Force vector in Cartesian vector form
- Distance vector in Cartesian vector form
- Computation of a determinant
This method requires the computation of the cross product, which can take some time and requires some math. Therefore, we usually don’t use this for 2D cases. In 3D, this method is recommended because no visualization is necessary, and the math takes care of everything.
Mo=r×F=irxFxjryFykrzFz
Cross Product Example: Determine the moment about point O

r=5i^+2j^
r=80i^−60j^
i^580j^2−60k^00 ⟶ [(5)(−60)−(2)(80)]k^=−460k^
Mo=−460N.m
or
Mo=460N.m clockwise

Determine the moment about A using,
1) M = r x F
2) M = Fd

Solution:
Using 1) M = r x F,

MO=r×F=irxFxjryFykrzFz
MA=3i+0j+0k×353.55i+353.55k+0k=i3353.55j0353.55k00
MA=(ryFz−rzFy)i−(rxFz−rzFx)j+(rxFy−ryFx)k
MA=(0(0)−0(353.55))i−(3(0)−0(353.55))j+(3(353.55)−0(353.55))k
MA=0i−0j+1060.65kMA=(1060.65k)N−m
Using 2) M = Fd,

↶+MA=−353.55(2.12m)+353.55(2.12m+3m)=1066.65N−m

Determine the moment about A using,
1) M = r x F
2) M = Fd

Solution:
Using 1) M = r x F,

MO=r×F=irxFxjryFykrzFz
MA=3i+0j+0k×353.55i+353.55k+0k=i3353.55j0353.55k00
MA=(ryFz−rzFy)i−(rxFz−rzFx)j+(rxFy−ryFx)k
MA=(0(0)−0(353.55))i−(3(0)−0(353.55))j+(3(353.55)−0(353.55))k
MA=0i−0j+1060.65kMA=(1060.65k)N−m
Using 2) M = Fd,

↶+MA=−353.55(2.12m)+353.55(2.12m+3m)=1066.65N−m

Example
Part 1) Determine the total moment about point B due to the following forces.
Part 2) Determine the total moment about point A due to the following forces.

Solution:

↺+ MB=− 230cos(30) (3m)+230sin(30) (4m)+300sin(60) (0) − 300cos(60) (4m)=−738N−m ↺
↺+ MA=230cos(30) (2m)+300sin(60) (5m) +400(3/5) (4m)+400 (4/5) (5m) = 4257 N−m ↻
Determine the moment about point O

GIVEN:
F1=(5i^−6j^−3k^)lb
F2=(−10i^+7j^+7k^)lb
FR=(−5i^+j^+4k^)lb
rOA=(4i^+5j^+3k^)ft
Mo=i^4−5j^51k^34
[(5)(4)−(3)(1)]i^=17i^
−[(4)(4)−(3)(−5)]j^=−31j^
+[(4)(1)−(5)(−5)]k^=29k^
Mo=(17i^−31j^+29k^)lb.ft

Determine the moment about point O

F1=(5i^−6j^−3k^)lb
F2=(−10i^+7j^+7k^)lb
FR=(−5i^+j^+4k^)lb
rOA=(4i^+5j^+3k^)ft
Mo=i^4−5j^51k^34
[(5)(4)−(3)(1)]i^=17i^
−[(4)(4)−(3)(−5)]j^=−31j^
+[(4)(1)−(5)(−5)]k^=29k^
Mo=(17i^−31j^+29k^)lb.ft

There are 3 common methods to compute moments about a point:
- Perpendicular components of a force
- Sine of the angle method
- Cross product method
Perpendicular Components of a Force
Requires:
- Decomposing force vector into x and y components
- Determining x and y distances
Since we know that the moment measures how perpendicular the force and distance are, we can create this formula to calculate moments in 2D:
M=±Fxry±Fyrx
When using this method, be careful with which components cause positive vs. negative moments.
Example
Determine the moment about point O


Mo=−(60)(5)−(80)(2)
Mo=−460N.m or Mo=460N.m clockwise
Sine of the Angle Method
Requires:
- Magnitude of the force
- Magnitude of the distance
- The angle between the two vectors
We can use another definition of the cross product:
Mo=rFsinθ=F(rsinθ)=Fd
Where the computation is very straight forward if we know the angle of the geometry. This method is rarely used because the angle is usually not provided, but it is good to know because it is the fastest.
Example
Determine the moment about point O


Mo=Fdsinθ=(100N)(5.385m)sin(58.7)
Mo=460N.m
Cross Product Method
Requires:
- Force vector in Cartesian vector form
- Distance vector in Cartesian vector form
- Computation of a determinant
This method requires the computation of the cross product, which can take some time and requires some math. Therefore, we usually don’t use this for 2D cases. In 3D, this method is recommended because no visualization is necessary, and the math takes care of everything.
Mo=r×F=irxFxjryFykrzFz
Cross Product Example
Determine the moment about point O

r=5i^+2j^
r=80i^−60j^
i^580j^2−60k^00 ⟶ [(5)(−60)−(2)(80)]k^=−460k^
Mo=−460N.m
or
Mo=460N.m clockwise
1) Calculate the moment that the force causes about point D:
2) Calculate the moment generated about point A
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1) Calculate the moment that the force causes about point D:
2) Calculate the moment generated about point A
Quiz: Moments About a Point - Practice Questions (2D)
Determine the moment that the Force P causes about O. Take P = 100N.

The length of rod AB is 2ft. Determine the angle α so that the applied force causes a moment of 20 lb-ft about Point B.

Determine the moment that P = 15 lbs, causes about point C. Take α = 10o

Determine the value of d, if a moment of 960Nm about D is needed, and if AB can exert a maximum force of 2400N.
Moments About a Point (3D problems)
- Moments about a point are defined as:
Mo=r×F= irxFxjryFykrzFz
- This is a vector equation!
- We will go through how you can calculate a cross-product, but the key is that the order of operations matters
- The line of action is the line that the force is applied to and passes through r is always measured from the point to the line of action of the FORCE – it doesn’t matter where on the line of action
- The force must be represented in Cartesian vector format in order to compute the cross product
- You may think of the cross product as a test of “perpendicularity”, which is maximized if the two vectors are perpendicular, and minimized if they’re parallel
- In other words, a maximum moment is obtained by keeping the force perpendicular to the distance

Example
Determine the moment of the force of FAE=600 N about O.

Solution:

Coordinates,
O(0,0,0)A(1.2,0,0)E(0,1.5,1.2)
We know that,
Position vector, rOA
rOA=1.2i+0j+0k
Cartesian force vector, FAE
FAE=∣FAE∣uAEFAE=∣FAE∣∣rAErAErAE=E−A=(0,1.5,1.2)−(1.2,0,0)→rAE=−1.2i+1.5j+1.2k∣rAE∣=(1.2)2+(1.5)2+(1.5)2+(1.2)2=2.265FAE=∣600N∣[2.265−1.2i+1.5j+1.2k]=−317.88i+397.38j+317.88k
Solving,
MO=rOA×FAE=i1.2−317.88j0397.38k0317.88MO=(0(317.88)−0(397.38)i−(1.2(317.88)−0(−317.88))j+(1.2(397.38)−0(−317.88))kMO=(−381j+477k)N−m
Practice
Calculate the moment caused by point A if cable BC has a tension of 800 N.
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Calculate the moment caused by point A if cable BC has a tension of 800 N
Mark Yourself Question
- Grab a piece of paper and try this problem yourself.
- When you're done, check the "I have answered this question" box below.
- View the solution and report whether you got it right or wrong.
Calculate the moment about point A if cable BC has a tension of 800 N
Quiz: Moments About a Point - Practice Questions (3D)
Determine the moment about A, caused by the 200N force.

Determine the moment about O caused by BD, if the tension in BD is 900N
